Beoardielingen foar DeArrow - Better Titles and Thumbnails on YouTube
DeArrow - Better Titles and Thumbnails on YouTube troch Ajay (SponsorBlock)
Wurdearringen foar Dishater
Wurdearring: 3 fan 5
troch Dishater, ien jier lynLet's get this out of the way, this doesn't remove clickbait. There's too many channels posting garbage by the second for new titles to be submitted and the De-Arrow user count is a fraction of SponsorBlock's.
What this actually does is remove sensationalism from channels that people watch regularly. Sometimes to an asinine degree. (ha i know big word)
"The city with a hundred private cable cars" is a video from Tom Scott. A De-Arrow user changed this to "Wellington has over one hundred private cable cars". For some reason I guess "this city" was deemed too sensational or vague, so adding the city name and a slight rewording makes it less so?
Another Tom Scott example, "Things are changing at the world's oldest hotel" becomes "Modernization of a Japanese hotel that is technically the world's oldest operating business". Okay, an example of a title that's actually de-sensationalized by a user, but now it's longer than needed and over-descriptive. Many titles are like this, if the De-Arrow community made a restaurant menu, common delicacies would include "Not actually French potato fries" and "Ground beef patty sandwiches with vegetables, condiments, and cheese in soggy buns".
De-Arrow has a voting system where you can dislike or like submitted elements and submit your own, but the Tom Scott examples above are submitted and locked by VIPs.
What's a VIP? Well, someone with insider access who can submit titles/thumbnails and no amount of dislikes or voting can displace their locked submissions. Currently, there's no way to apply for VIP status, it's strictly for the coolest of dudes. I'd be fine with VIPs getting an voting boost based on their status, but not being able to vote on these titles is stupid. This isn't SponsorBlock, where a Sponsor segment can be objectively correct based on start/end time, someone may be able to summarize the info into something better, like "Modernization of the oldest operating hotel".
Filler tangent/jokes aside, I'd still recommend De-Arrow to display auto-generated or user-submitted thumbnails, I don't have much to complain about there other than thumbnails sometimes not loading when enabled. For title replacement, you can use the "channel allowlist" so selected channels use custom blocking settings, although some visual issues occur on YouTube when both whitelisting and blacklisting, keep that in mind.
What this actually does is remove sensationalism from channels that people watch regularly. Sometimes to an asinine degree. (ha i know big word)
"The city with a hundred private cable cars" is a video from Tom Scott. A De-Arrow user changed this to "Wellington has over one hundred private cable cars". For some reason I guess "this city" was deemed too sensational or vague, so adding the city name and a slight rewording makes it less so?
Another Tom Scott example, "Things are changing at the world's oldest hotel" becomes "Modernization of a Japanese hotel that is technically the world's oldest operating business". Okay, an example of a title that's actually de-sensationalized by a user, but now it's longer than needed and over-descriptive. Many titles are like this, if the De-Arrow community made a restaurant menu, common delicacies would include "Not actually French potato fries" and "Ground beef patty sandwiches with vegetables, condiments, and cheese in soggy buns".
De-Arrow has a voting system where you can dislike or like submitted elements and submit your own, but the Tom Scott examples above are submitted and locked by VIPs.
What's a VIP? Well, someone with insider access who can submit titles/thumbnails and no amount of dislikes or voting can displace their locked submissions. Currently, there's no way to apply for VIP status, it's strictly for the coolest of dudes. I'd be fine with VIPs getting an voting boost based on their status, but not being able to vote on these titles is stupid. This isn't SponsorBlock, where a Sponsor segment can be objectively correct based on start/end time, someone may be able to summarize the info into something better, like "Modernization of the oldest operating hotel".
Filler tangent/jokes aside, I'd still recommend De-Arrow to display auto-generated or user-submitted thumbnails, I don't have much to complain about there other than thumbnails sometimes not loading when enabled. For title replacement, you can use the "channel allowlist" so selected channels use custom blocking settings, although some visual issues occur on YouTube when both whitelisting and blacklisting, keep that in mind.
Antwurd ûntwikkeler
ien jier lyn pleatstAs for the second part of your review about "VIP" locked titles, we have partially resolved this by having now allowing them to submit segments as normal users for when it seems better to leave it up to votes. We also have a channel that logs downvoted "VIP" locked titles to fix if there are issues.
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- Wurdearring: 5 fan 5troch Dark_Ronius, 3 dagen lynI didn't realise I needed this until I saw it as a feature in my Adfree Youtube app on my LG TV. I actually don't mind the arrow thumbnails, but I'm growing to really appreciate (and contribute to) the title swaps. The thumbnail swaps feel too obvious and ugly, but the Titles feel very transparent and get to the heart of what as video is about (this is I think personal preference, I guess I don't mind "sensational" imagery to grab my attention as long as the Title is descriptive) I find I'm both avoiding videos I have no interest in, but also actually finding new creators thanks to their "de-arrowed" video titles. You can re-arrow titles with a single click (I presume this does the same with thumbnails too).
The free activation took me about a day, and honestly now I've started using it think I will contribute, at the least I've already contributed with a few titles of my own. Your license also syncs with your Firefox Sync, which I was surprised about for the free license. - Wurdearring: 5 fan 5troch R D, ien moanne lyn
- Wurdearring: 1 fan 5troch Acosta_ff, ien moanne lyn
- Wurdearring: 5 fan 5troch Ali Nazari, ien moanne lyn
- Wurdearring: 1 fan 5troch Ceirus, ien moanne lynIt's not about the price, it's about the hassle. I can use a completely free extension that does the exact same thing and not have to worry about the hassle.
Antwurd ûntwikkeler
ien moanne lyn pleatstHi, clickbait remover is another extension that you are free to use if you want. It has different features though and does not have any crowdsourcing - Wurdearring: 2 fan 5troch Aaaaa, ien moanne lynFirefox mobile,latest version-doesnt work anymore(video titles doesnt change after enabling addon)
Antwurd ûntwikkeler
ien moanne lyn pleatstHi, this will be fixed in 2.2.1. It might take up to two weeks for the update to be reviewed by Mozilla, but you can download the beta here: https://github.com/ajayyy/DeArrow/releases/tag/2.2.1 - Wurdearring: 5 fan 5troch dwouu, ien moanne lynI haven't found any corrected titles which are flat-out wrong, and if I see inaccuracies I fix them instead of leaving a bad review :). FYI - you do NOT have to pay to use this at all! Just wait the 24 hours and you're good to go.
- Wurdearring: 1 fan 5troch Firefox-brûker 19587603, 2 moannen lyn
- Wurdearring: 3 fan 5troch Firefox-brûker 18372070, 2 moannen lynInteresting premise, but a lot of times the thumbnails/titles are objectively worse than the original thumbnails/titles. This isn't the add-on author's fault, though. But it's enough for me to not want to use this add-on.
- Wurdearring: 5 fan 5troch Firefox-brûker 19567959, 2 moannen lynI love dearrow, it's just so great how everyone contributes to help making youtube a better place.
- Wurdearring: 1 fan 5troch Firefox-brûker 18965671, 2 moannen lynCausing issues since 2.1.11 and the dev is no help in even asking for a shred of information to try and fix the issue. I highly do NOT recommend downloading this as if you have ANY issue you will NOT get any help trying to fix it.
Edit: "When someone spams my email..." 4 days went by with no response, then I gave some information I thought would be useful and thought I had found the issue, to which I closed my issue post on your github page. 6 full days went by until the issue popped up again, where I reopened the issue. I mentioned something I noticed when moving the tab/window playing a YT video and 3 more full days went by without a word. That's spam to you? You've got a very skewed definition of the word "spam" if that's how you think...Antwurd ûntwikkeler
2 moannen lyn pleatstWhen someone spams my email, I am a lot less interested in spending time helping them out. I am always happy to help people who are respectful - Wurdearring: 2 fan 5troch Taw, 2 moannen lynI installed it and am using it to replace a much better addon that is no longer updated. I only care about two features: changing the case of titles and replacing thumbnails with video frames.
I have a couple problems with DeArrow:
Similar to SponsorBlock, the crowdsourced nature of it makes it very unreliable. There are many cases of overly opinionated user submissions that conflict with the original material in one way or another.
There are settings to remove the crowdsource functionality and make it work the way I described above, but getting it to do that wasn't very easy and required some hoops to be jumped through.
The much bigger set of hoops is the process of getting to use the addon. You cannot use the addon for free, and the description is misleading.
To get access you need to first click a button to decline paying, then you need to apply for free access, you do not get free access immediately, so you have to start your short free trial. My trial expired before I was granted free access. I was very tempted to uninstall the plugin at every step of this way, and the experience means I will never donate.
I understand the desire to make money off this, but this attitude sucks when it actively and very successfully disrupts the usability of the tool. I am not recommending it to other people. Will drop it if I ever make my own addon to replace the old clickbait remover, or find an alternative.
Maybe this is petty and vindictive, but I'm so tired of all the bullshit and lack of groovy attitudes.Antwurd ûntwikkeler
2 moannen lyn pleatstThe goal is to make an add-on that anyone can use for free if they want to, instead of paywalling it. Anyone can request free access to use DeArrow for free, no questions asked, because I think that's the right thing to do.
At the same time, people buying DeArrow is how I pay my rent, so I appreciate anyone who chooses to do so. - Wurdearring: 5 fan 5troch Josy, 2 moannen lyn
- Wurdearring: 5 fan 5troch den, 3 moannen lynThis makes YouTube SO MUCH BETTER! Videos I would never click on are made way more interesting now that I can actually see what they're about. Every YouTuber feels the need to oversimplify their thumbnails and titles to make it more "clickable", but for some of us, that has the opposite effect. Thank you for making the YouTube experience better.
- Wurdearring: 4 fan 5troch LongRamen, 3 moannen lynplease update it to work with the recent new youtube layout! the button to show/hide the replaced thumbnail/title now moves around when you try to click it, very annoying
- Wurdearring: 5 fan 5troch Firefox-brûker 19494893, 3 moannen lynThis is an essential extension if you are an avid Youtube user.
- Wurdearring: 5 fan 5troch Ishu, 4 moannen lynI soo badly wants to support u but alas don't have a credit card or paypal. I will support u one day though when I get a job soon. Take care brother and thanks.
- Wurdearring: 5 fan 5troch Firefox-brûker 14230878, 4 moannen lynNowadays I consider this a mandatory extension. YouTube without it is painful to my eyes. Thank you to Ajay for making this extension, it is a gem.
- Wurdearring: 5 fan 5troch skye, 4 moannen lyn
- Wurdearring: 5 fan 5troch lw, 4 moannen lyn
- Wurdearring: 5 fan 5troch Hannibal, 4 moannen lynFantastic! Improved titles help inform me what I'm >actually< going to see if I click rather than the sensationalized bunk that has become so common for good & bad channels alike.