Beoardielingen foar NoScript Security Suite
NoScript Security Suite troch Giorgio Maone
Wurdearringen foar Firefox-brûker 13553842
Wurdearring: 2 fan 5
troch Firefox-brûker 13553842, 8 jierren lynGeorgio wrote:
> Unfortunately I cannot do the impossible (recreating legacy NoScript on the new, much more limiting WebExtension platform)
> just because "people" ask for the impossible. And I've the duty to provide the best security NoScript
BUT maybe it is not so much about recreating the old thing, than understanding what the problem with the new thing is. First you need to accept that the current approach is simply not intuitive. As a dev (I am one myself, so I had this problem myself) its hard to understand when that happens, because for you its as familiar as a part of your body, but it is obviously a mistery for everbody else.
Also, about your "duty": Its true what you said, but: if many people now dont use NoScript at all, because they do not get it anymore, you decreased web security by a lot.
So:
- Simpler is better. Simpler might be less safer, but if the alternative is not using it at all, it's still better. Way better.
- get rid of the slider. It looks mhm good(?), but its not recognizable as one.
- there is way to much clickable stuff, one does not get what is a button, what a link and whatnot...
- make it simpler: hide everything exept: domain name, status icon and -depending on the status- two buttons for each entry.
- clear design, dont change font size and font color at any time
- No xss-popups. In fact, never, ever use popups.
Instead:
- a simple list of domains like before, each with a status icon in front of it: your blue "S", for allowed, same with a little clock for temporarily allowd, red crossed "S" for disallowed
- depending on the current status of an entry, two buttons:
- if currently allowed: "disallow" and "temp. disallow"
- if currently disallowed: "allow" and "temp. allow"
- these buttons need to be different than the status icon. I would use red X and green hook/check, each with and without a little clock.
- dont make anything but the buttons clickable! not the text, not the status icon.
Thats it.
You can add a (clearly seperated from the other buttons, clearly different graphic) button behind each list entry to hide all the detailed settings, for the expert. Everybody else gets the simple list.
At the very buttom of the list go -clearly separated - three entries: "temp allow all" and "save permissions for this site" and "deactivate noscript".
No problem to do that in html. And believe me, people will love you again. :)
If you would like me to make a mockup of what Ive just desrcibed, just say so and tell me where to send it.
And btw.: You dont owe us anything. People have no right being rude to you about something you gave us for free. But maybe see their ill-advised passion as a testament to how important NoScript is to us. That is something I think, even if you must hate the internet right now.
I thank you for the old NoScript and that it helped increase my security. But I won't use the current one. So I would thank you again if you make it simple and easy to use again.
> Unfortunately I cannot do the impossible (recreating legacy NoScript on the new, much more limiting WebExtension platform)
> just because "people" ask for the impossible. And I've the duty to provide the best security NoScript
BUT maybe it is not so much about recreating the old thing, than understanding what the problem with the new thing is. First you need to accept that the current approach is simply not intuitive. As a dev (I am one myself, so I had this problem myself) its hard to understand when that happens, because for you its as familiar as a part of your body, but it is obviously a mistery for everbody else.
Also, about your "duty": Its true what you said, but: if many people now dont use NoScript at all, because they do not get it anymore, you decreased web security by a lot.
So:
- Simpler is better. Simpler might be less safer, but if the alternative is not using it at all, it's still better. Way better.
- get rid of the slider. It looks mhm good(?), but its not recognizable as one.
- there is way to much clickable stuff, one does not get what is a button, what a link and whatnot...
- make it simpler: hide everything exept: domain name, status icon and -depending on the status- two buttons for each entry.
- clear design, dont change font size and font color at any time
- No xss-popups. In fact, never, ever use popups.
Instead:
- a simple list of domains like before, each with a status icon in front of it: your blue "S", for allowed, same with a little clock for temporarily allowd, red crossed "S" for disallowed
- depending on the current status of an entry, two buttons:
- if currently allowed: "disallow" and "temp. disallow"
- if currently disallowed: "allow" and "temp. allow"
- these buttons need to be different than the status icon. I would use red X and green hook/check, each with and without a little clock.
- dont make anything but the buttons clickable! not the text, not the status icon.
Thats it.
You can add a (clearly seperated from the other buttons, clearly different graphic) button behind each list entry to hide all the detailed settings, for the expert. Everybody else gets the simple list.
At the very buttom of the list go -clearly separated - three entries: "temp allow all" and "save permissions for this site" and "deactivate noscript".
No problem to do that in html. And believe me, people will love you again. :)
If you would like me to make a mockup of what Ive just desrcibed, just say so and tell me where to send it.
And btw.: You dont owe us anything. People have no right being rude to you about something you gave us for free. But maybe see their ill-advised passion as a testament to how important NoScript is to us. That is something I think, even if you must hate the internet right now.
I thank you for the old NoScript and that it helped increase my security. But I won't use the current one. So I would thank you again if you make it simple and easy to use again.
2.445 beoardielingen
- Wurdearring: 5 fan 5troch noewaeda, 2 dagen lynit's an essential extension. without it, using the internet is like walking directly into a warzone.
on the strict setting, it makes browsing slightly more clunky due to having to give websites some trust, but it's usually not that big of a deal. - Wurdearring: 5 fan 5troch Max Rower, 3 dagen lyn
- Wurdearring: 2 fan 5troch fidius, 3 dagen lynI uninstalled this extension because it randomly started interfering with browsing due to some nonsense swipe-style gesture 'feature'. Used to be a good extension but I'm not inclined to trust it anymore.
- Wurdearring: 5 fan 5troch Firefox-brûker 19773062, 4 dagen lynDue to a bug that effected mobile scrolling, I disabled Noscript for a day and discovered what a horrible experience browsing was without it.
It seems the bug is now fixed, and in record time too. Thanks Giorgio. Fantastic extension. - Wurdearring: 5 fan 5troch Tsuki, 4 dagen lyn
- Wurdearring: 5 fan 5troch tt, 4 dagen lynNew update gesture feature needs to be removed. Disabling the extention until it's fixed
updating to 5 stars now that gesture feature is turned off by default - Wurdearring: 1 fan 5troch Kval, 4 dagen lynRemove gestures or add an option to disable this clunky gesture feature in the settings in the next update. Scrolling is impossible with the current update. For this reason alone, I'm removing this very useful extension for now, until they fix this annoying feature.
- Wurdearring: 1 fan 5troch Radosław, 4 dagen lyn
- Wurdearring: 1 fan 5troch fcat435, 4 dagen lynHad to disable the extension because it prevented me from scrolling on pages.
- Wurdearring: 2 fan 5troch Firefox-brûker 12969656, 4 dagen lynDitch the gesture on mobile function and will be a 5* extension again.
- Wurdearring: 3 fan 5troch Firefox-brûker 13428877, 4 dagen lynI use it a lot and it has been a great tool but had to drop the rating after the new gesture system has been added since for a while I had no idea it had been added and it has made browsing a complete hell on mobile because it can't be disabled so I will have to disable the app until then.
- Wurdearring: 2 fan 5troch Vee, 4 dagen lynWas good, but the new gesture system is horrible and makes scrolling on mobile more trouble than it's worth.
This should have never been implemented silently in the background without an option to disable, to begin with. No idea what the dev was thinking.
Had to disable Noscript on mobile until it's fixed. - Wurdearring: 5 fan 5troch Ivan, 5 dagen lynThe whole gesture idea thing. First, accessing the settings in Firefox android is the same number of ui interactions once the new ui layout is learned. Second, Imagine if another extension did what you decided to do (the whole Old New Thing "Imagine if two programs did this"). Third, I cannot believe your awesome extension can still be Mozilla recommended after this. 🙁
- Wurdearring: 1 fan 5troch Firefox-brûker 18205130, 5 dagen lynNow, when I accidentally hold down on the screen, the selection randomly appears. It turns out this extension is to blame. How can I disable it? I can't find anything in the settings. Please give us the opportunity to remove this "gesture".
- Wurdearring: 1 fan 5troch Firefox-brûker 13994127, 5 dagen lynPlease let us scroll again. Thank you.
- Wurdearring: 2 fan 5troch Firefox-brûker 17307430, 5 dagen lyn
- Wurdearring: 3 fan 5troch Oi you, 5 dagen lynI'd rate this significantly higher, but 13.6.3 added some annoying gesture nonsense on mobile that's bloody inconvenient and doesn't have any obvious off switch.
- Wurdearring: 1 fan 5troch xorek, 5 dagen lynWas great, but now there is an annoying gesture function I cannot disable. Trying to browse and a slight movement to the corners on the left will start drawing. I have a disability that causes finger twitching, so this idiotic feature constantly activates. New features should always default to off. Review from android phone. Edit: Downgraded to a previous version worked at least. Still keeping 1 star because of this stupid decision to not have a toggle. Way to not care about people with disabilities...
- Wurdearring: 1 fan 5troch Firefox-brûker 18210165, 5 dagen lynThis new gesture "feature" (more like a bug) really ruins things. Put it back how it was.
- Wurdearring: 1 fan 5troch Firefox-brûker 19770324, 5 dagen lynUnfortunately the latest changes adding gestures made this extension unusable on mobile.
- Wurdearring: 5 fan 5troch Firefox-brûker 14489384, 5 dagen lyn
- Wurdearring: 2 fan 5troch Speaka, 5 dagen lynThe new swipe gestures make it basically unusable. There is no way to disable this annoying bs
- Wurdearring: 4 fan 5troch guppy, 5 dagen lynWorks great for what it intends to do. But i don't understand why it needs a swipe gesture that makes the logo show up and opens the extension menu if you drag it around enough. I uninstalled it because I kept doing it on accident and there isn't a way to turn this feature off.
- Wurdearring: 3 fan 5troch Firefox-brûker 14609268, 15 dagen lynWhile this is an incredibly great app for granular control, it is the OPPOSITE of its "with no loss of functionality" mission. This is the #1 go-to source of browser errors that I am constantly troubleshooting and it takes HOURS of time sifting to figure out what to tweak because it provides no help when it breaks something (like a search box)--you just have to go on a lengthy trial and error quest one by one to figure out which of 30 sites to trust to get a search bar working and by that time I don't remember what I was going to search for. So you end up just globally trusting everything and that defeats the whole purpose.
- Wurdearring: 2 fan 5troch Firefox-brûker 13935566, 25 dagen lyn