Ocene za DeArrow - Better Titles and Thumbnails on YouTube
DeArrow - Better Titles and Thumbnails on YouTube — Ajay (SponsorBlock)
Ocena uporabnika Dishater
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— Dishater, pred enim letomLet's get this out of the way, this doesn't remove clickbait. There's too many channels posting garbage by the second for new titles to be submitted and the De-Arrow user count is a fraction of SponsorBlock's.
What this actually does is remove sensationalism from channels that people watch regularly. Sometimes to an asinine degree. (ha i know big word)
"The city with a hundred private cable cars" is a video from Tom Scott. A De-Arrow user changed this to "Wellington has over one hundred private cable cars". For some reason I guess "this city" was deemed too sensational or vague, so adding the city name and a slight rewording makes it less so?
Another Tom Scott example, "Things are changing at the world's oldest hotel" becomes "Modernization of a Japanese hotel that is technically the world's oldest operating business". Okay, an example of a title that's actually de-sensationalized by a user, but now it's longer than needed and over-descriptive. Many titles are like this, if the De-Arrow community made a restaurant menu, common delicacies would include "Not actually French potato fries" and "Ground beef patty sandwiches with vegetables, condiments, and cheese in soggy buns".
De-Arrow has a voting system where you can dislike or like submitted elements and submit your own, but the Tom Scott examples above are submitted and locked by VIPs.
What's a VIP? Well, someone with insider access who can submit titles/thumbnails and no amount of dislikes or voting can displace their locked submissions. Currently, there's no way to apply for VIP status, it's strictly for the coolest of dudes. I'd be fine with VIPs getting an voting boost based on their status, but not being able to vote on these titles is stupid. This isn't SponsorBlock, where a Sponsor segment can be objectively correct based on start/end time, someone may be able to summarize the info into something better, like "Modernization of the oldest operating hotel".
Filler tangent/jokes aside, I'd still recommend De-Arrow to display auto-generated or user-submitted thumbnails, I don't have much to complain about there other than thumbnails sometimes not loading when enabled. For title replacement, you can use the "channel allowlist" so selected channels use custom blocking settings, although some visual issues occur on YouTube when both whitelisting and blacklisting, keep that in mind.
What this actually does is remove sensationalism from channels that people watch regularly. Sometimes to an asinine degree. (ha i know big word)
"The city with a hundred private cable cars" is a video from Tom Scott. A De-Arrow user changed this to "Wellington has over one hundred private cable cars". For some reason I guess "this city" was deemed too sensational or vague, so adding the city name and a slight rewording makes it less so?
Another Tom Scott example, "Things are changing at the world's oldest hotel" becomes "Modernization of a Japanese hotel that is technically the world's oldest operating business". Okay, an example of a title that's actually de-sensationalized by a user, but now it's longer than needed and over-descriptive. Many titles are like this, if the De-Arrow community made a restaurant menu, common delicacies would include "Not actually French potato fries" and "Ground beef patty sandwiches with vegetables, condiments, and cheese in soggy buns".
De-Arrow has a voting system where you can dislike or like submitted elements and submit your own, but the Tom Scott examples above are submitted and locked by VIPs.
What's a VIP? Well, someone with insider access who can submit titles/thumbnails and no amount of dislikes or voting can displace their locked submissions. Currently, there's no way to apply for VIP status, it's strictly for the coolest of dudes. I'd be fine with VIPs getting an voting boost based on their status, but not being able to vote on these titles is stupid. This isn't SponsorBlock, where a Sponsor segment can be objectively correct based on start/end time, someone may be able to summarize the info into something better, like "Modernization of the oldest operating hotel".
Filler tangent/jokes aside, I'd still recommend De-Arrow to display auto-generated or user-submitted thumbnails, I don't have much to complain about there other than thumbnails sometimes not loading when enabled. For title replacement, you can use the "channel allowlist" so selected channels use custom blocking settings, although some visual issues occur on YouTube when both whitelisting and blacklisting, keep that in mind.
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objavljeno ob pred enim letomAs for the second part of your review about "VIP" locked titles, we have partially resolved this by having now allowing them to submit segments as normal users for when it seems better to leave it up to votes. We also have a channel that logs downvoted "VIP" locked titles to fix if there are issues.
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- Ocenjeno z 2 od 5— Taw, pred 4 dneviI installed it and am using it to replace a much better addon that is no longer updated. I only care about two features: changing the case of titles and replacing thumbnails with video frames.
I have a couple problems with DeArrow:
Similar to SponsorBlock, the crowdsourced nature of it makes it very unreliable. There are many cases of overly opinionated user submissions that conflict with the original material in one way or another.
There are settings to remove the crowdsource functionality and make it work the way I described above, but getting it to do that wasn't very easy and required some hoops to be jumped through.
The much bigger set of hoops is the process of getting to use the addon. You cannot use the addon for free, and the description is misleading.
To get access you need to first click a button to decline paying, then you need to apply for free access, you do not get free access immediately, so you have to start your short free trial. My trial expired before I was granted free access. I was very tempted to uninstall the plugin at every step of this way, and the experience means I will never donate.
I understand the desire to make money off this, but this attitude sucks when it actively and very successfully disrupts the usability of the tool. I am not recommending it to other people. Will drop it if I ever make my own addon to replace the old clickbait remover, or find an alternative.
Maybe this is petty and vindictive, but I'm so tired of all the bullshit and lack of groovy attitudes. - Ocenjeno z 5 od 5— Josy, pred 7 dnevi
- Ocenjeno z 5 od 5— den, pred 8 dneviThis makes YouTube SO MUCH BETTER! Videos I would never click on are made way more interesting now that I can actually see what they're about. Every YouTuber feels the need to oversimplify their thumbnails and titles to make it more "clickable", but for some of us, that has the opposite effect. Thank you for making the YouTube experience better.
- Ocenjeno z 4 od 5— LongRamen, pred 14 dneviplease update it to work with the recent new youtube layout! the button to show/hide the replaced thumbnail/title now moves around when you try to click it, very annoying
- Ocenjeno z 5 od 5— Uporabnik Firefoxa 19494893, pred enim mesecemThis is an essential extension if you are an avid Youtube user.
- Ocenjeno z 5 od 5— Ishu, pred enim mesecemI soo badly wants to support u but alas don't have a credit card or paypal. I will support u one day though when I get a job soon. Take care brother and thanks.
- Ocenjeno z 5 od 5— Uporabnik Firefoxa 14230878, pred 2 mesecemaNowadays I consider this a mandatory extension. YouTube without it is painful to my eyes. Thank you to Ajay for making this extension, it is a gem.
- Ocenjeno z 5 od 5— skye, pred 2 mesecema
- Ocenjeno z 5 od 5— lw, pred 2 mesecema
- Ocenjeno z 5 od 5— Hannibal, pred 2 mesecemaFantastic! Improved titles help inform me what I'm >actually< going to see if I click rather than the sensationalized bunk that has become so common for good & bad channels alike.
- Ocenjeno z 5 od 5— FairwellNoob, pred 2 mesecema
- Ocenjeno z 5 od 5— Nuwanda, pred 2 mesecema
- Ocenjeno z 5 od 5— Antegra, pred 2 mesecemaAlways a blank screen since today for every thumbnaiI I reinstalled nothing changed It worked for a long time
Edit: It work very well nowOdgovor razvijalca
objavljeno ob pred 2 mesecemaEdit: The update is now published!
YouTube changed the layout causing the extension to replace thumbnails with blank spaces. I have fixed this in 2.1.7, but unfortunately Firefox is slow at reviewing updates.
This will take a few days to appear on the extension store. On Firefox, it could take up to 14 days, but you can switch to the beta version by clicking "FirefoxSignedInstaller" in the release (https://github.com/ajayyy/DeArrow/releases/tag/2.1.7). Make sure to backup your data and only have one extension enabled at once if you choose to do that.
While you wait on the old version, you can disable thumbnail replacements to see the original thumbnail instead of a blank space. - Ocenjeno z 5 od 5— SDM, pred 2 mesecemaworked well for a while, then it broke.
Edit; Dev fixed it, add-on works well, not perfect but helps cut down the insanely over embellished nature of YouTube thumbnails/titles.Odgovor razvijalca
objavljeno ob pred 2 mesecemaEdit: The update is now published!
YouTube changed the layout causing the extension to replace thumbnails with blank spaces. I have fixed this in 2.1.7, but unfortunately Firefox is slow at reviewing updates.
This will take a few days to appear on the extension store. On Firefox, it could take up to 14 days, but you can switch to the beta version by clicking "FirefoxSignedInstaller" in the release (https://github.com/ajayyy/DeArrow/releases/tag/2.1.7). Make sure to backup your data and only have one extension enabled at once if you choose to do that.
While you wait on the old version, you can disable thumbnail replacements to see the original thumbnail instead of a blank space. - Ocenjeno z 5 od 5— Uporabnik Firefoxa 18065930, pred 2 mesecema
- Ocenjeno z 5 od 5— Haz, pred 2 mesecema
- Ocenjeno z 5 od 5— Abdelrahman Mekky, pred 2 mesecemaVery useful,very great thanks for the amazing addon, however it seems a recent update might've caused the thumbnails to not load at all for me, disabling de arrow fixes this not sure if this is a dearrow issue or some conflict somewhere
Odgovor razvijalca
objavljeno ob pred 2 mesecemaEdit: The update is now published!
YouTube changed the layout causing the extension to replace thumbnails with blank spaces. I have fixed this in 2.1.7
This will take a few days to appear on the extension store. On Firefox, it could take up to 14 days, but you can switch to the beta version by clicking "FirefoxSignedInstaller" in the release (https://github.com/ajayyy/DeArrow/releases/tag/2.1.7). Make sure to backup your data and only have one extension enabled at once if you choose to do that.
While you wait on the old version, you can disable thumbnail replacements to see the original thumbnail instead of a blank space. - Ocenjeno z 5 od 5— shima rin, pred 3 meseci
- Ocenjeno z 5 od 5— Uporabnik Firefoxa 13137791, pred 3 meseci
- Ocenjeno z 5 od 5— chewygum, pred 3 meseci
- Ocenjeno z 3 od 5— Ritchie, pred 3 meseci
- Ocenjeno z 5 od 5— Glen, pred 4 meseci
- Ocenjeno z 1 od 5— Uporabnik Firefoxa 19110817, pred 4 meseciA massively over-engineered solution compared to something like Clickbait Remover. Why does this require the Sponsorblock model instead of just giving you semi-random screenshots? Why all this complexity?
I don't think there's any reason other than the developer wishing to justify monetizing crowd-sourced software.
EDIT: response to developer - I would wager that the vast majority of this addon's users don't care about the title change feature (indeed, I quickly disabled it). I also don't see how Clickbait Remover predating Arrow excuses Arrow being over-engineered - if anything, that makes it worse (a simple solution was demonstrated, yet it was decided to build an incredibly convoluted alternative)Odgovor razvijalca
objavljeno ob pred 4 meseciClickbait remover is a great extension that was made before dearrow. If you prefer that simple approach, it's made for you
The crowdsourcing in dearrow is more about titles than thumbnails, which is something clickbait remover is not able to deal with.
Response to edit: I'm not sure I understand your point. If you don't think crowdsourcing is beneficial to you, you should use the other extension. The whole point of this extension is for the crowdsourcing, so most people using this extension are do have those enabled.